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Jesus repents sins

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Fun has been put down once more at Jesus College this week, after the JCR fulfilled their commitment to frame a letter of apology commissioned last term.

The letter, written by the perpetrator of an “incriminating stain” on the pool table, was ordered in a motion passed at the JCR meeting in 6th Week of Michaelmas. Acknowledging rumours that the stain was “composed of bodily fluids”, it went on to state that “no JCR member wishes to put their hands in the bodily fluids while playing pool”.

In order to deal with the incident, the motion proposed that the said male should write “a letter of apology to the entire JCR explaining his actions” which “will be framed and placed beside the pool table”.

The anonymous student states in his letter, “The pool table is a piece of equipment that facilitates a multitude of complex, enjoyable and satisfying cue sports, among them pool, snooker and billiards.
“It is not, therefore, an appropriate place for me to deposit two teaspoons of my unborn children.”

Second year Jesus student Declan Clowry, said, “I think it’s good that he had the balls to come clean. I just hope it doesn’t become a cue for more unorthodox potting in the JCR pool room.”

The motion was proposed by Jesus student Max Gordon-Brown, and seconded by Michael Lisanti. The shaming of the students involved was passed with an outright majority, with only one JCR member voting against it.

One Jesus student, who asked to remain anonymous, said that he was “a little bit impressed by the guy. Nobody thought he had it in him”.

Fears of the “death of fun” at Jesus were sparked last term when JCR members fought back against academic initiatives imposed by college authorities by wearing of black armbands to mourn the loss of merriment.

Oxford don joins Wikileaks debate

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A respected Oxford historian has sparked international debate this week as he urged governments to reconsider what information really needs to be protected in light of WikiLeaks.

Speaking at the World Economic Forum on Wednesday, Timothy Garton Ash, professor of European Studies, said, “Every organisation should think very hard about what it is you really need to protect. You’re probably protecting a whole lot you don’t need to. And then do everything you can to protect that smaller amount.”

He added, “I do not believe that the online world means that there can be no secrecy and everyone will know everything about everyone.”

He spoke at a closed session at the Forum where participants wrestled with the thorny questions surfaced by the explosion of online information and the WikiLeaks phenomenon in particular.

Visa proposals condemned

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Home Office proposals which would make entering and staying in the UK more difficult for foreign students and their dependents have been declared “disastrous” by leaders in the Higher Education sector.

The changes, which would affect the many international students at Oxford, were highlighted last week by Cherwell.

A report by the UK Border Agency has suggested closing the popular two-year post-study work visa, limiting international students’ ability to work in term time.

Dominic Scott, Chief Executive for the UK Council for International Student Affairs (UKCISA), called the proposals “probably the most radical proposals for a decade, if not a generation.”

Major higher education and international education sector stakeholders have come together this week to object to the government’s proposed changes to the international student visa system ahead of the end of the consultation period on Monday.

Tony Millins, Chief Executive of English UK, commented, “This is a cross-sectoral initiative and the fact that we have come together indicates very strongly how importantly we see this issue.

“In a week that began with the shock economic news that Britain’s economy contracted by half a per cent in the final quarter of last year … I think we need to concentrate on the growth aspects of international education.”

Aaron Porter, President of the NUS, said, “I think it would be an absolute travesty at a time when universities and students are facing unprecedented challenges for an additional, unnecessary and indeed economically counter-productive challenge to be thrown into the mix.

“It wouldn’t just be international students that would lose out from the opportunity of studying in this country, it would lead to a worsening of the experience for all students, both home and international.”

Oxford University has echoed the sentiments expressed by Porter, commenting, “both the UK and the economy will undoubtedly lose some of the best international students, as well as some incredibly skilled people, because of these changes.”

Varsity: Dunn and dusted

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Travel company Scott Dunn have pulled the plug on their sponsorship of the Varsity Ski Trip following revelations about student antics in the Valley Rally competition.

Scott Dunn awarded the winners of the trip’s Valley Rally a free 5-star skiing holiday in Austria, but were alarmed to find out that the competitors had participated in a variety of dubious challenges in order to win.

Activities witnessed as part of the competition included smashing an egg “in the most imaginative manner possible”, posing for pictures whilst naked and covered in pasta sauce and chocolate and eating “yellow snow” in front of large crowds of people.

A high proportion of students dropped out of the competition, which had been hailed as “a great afternoon on the slopes” on the Varsity twentyten website, upon seeing what the challenges would involve.
The top three prizes all went to Oxford teams, with the eventual champions all coming from St Anne’s.

One of the winners told Cherwell, “I think I may have got hypothermia but it was definitely worth it,” whilst another said, “I sold my dignity for a free holiday”.

In a statement to The Sunday Telegraph, the travel company said, “Scott Dunn recently learnt of reported bad behaviour by some of the participants of the Varsity Trip’s Valley Rally.

“Scott Dunn in no way endorses any of the inappropriate behaviour reported.”

They continued, “The organisers of the Valley Rally and Varsity Trip did not inform Scott Dunn of the nature of the challenges throughout the negotiations for sponsorship.

“Scott Dunn will be honouring the prize as per our agreement but will have no future involvement in the Varsity Trip and Valley Rally.”

St Anne’s students are also facing repercussions within their college. The Dean has requested to see all St Anne’s students who went on the Varsity trip next week in order to discuss the behaviour of those involved.

The combined Oxbridge trip took place in December in the Val Thorens resort in France. The trip was also notable for a coach crash involving many Oxford students on their way to the Alps.

Teddies set to tough it out

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12 fearless students from St Edmund Hall will brave the infamous “Tough Guy” competition this Sunday.

With claims to being the most physically demanding assault course in the world, eight students will be joining 6,900 other competitors from over 25 countries who will head to Stratfordshire to battle it out for the title of “Tough Guy of the Year”.

“Tough Guy” has seen the death of two competitors and participants are required to sign an “official death warrant” acknowledging the threat to their lives as they battle to win the ultimate badge of machismo.

The race involves running through high-pressure hoses and barbed wire fences, jumping over fire-pits, wading through ice-cold, murky lakes and sewage pipes and running through fields of stinging nettles amongst other feats of bravado.

Only a third of competitors complete the race each year but according to Billy Wilson, organiser of the race, no one as ever completed the challenge as per all his regulations.

Adam Jordan, a Blues Hockey player at Teddy Hall, will lead a team of 12 Oxford students as well as his brother Michael Jordan. He has undertaken the challenge twice before.

“Second time round I was taken off the course by paramedics with hypothermia, so for me it’s a revenge attempt,” he said. “I thought I’d drag a few others along with me to give it a shot.”

“We’re not doing it to prove our manhood. We do have one person running with a heart condition, but he is built like an ox and has a mind of steel so I’m confident he’ll do well.

“The main risks for us are broken bones. The assault course offers some decent heights and with water involved in the course it becomes slippery, people break or dislocate legs and arms all the time but you’re unlikely to die from this: the main danger for us is hypothermia.”

Maria Higson, a third year at Teddy Hall, commented, “I originally had no intention whatsoever of doing ‘Tough Guy’, as it sounds like my idea of absolute hell. But when my friend Adam suggested it to me he used those fatal words ‘it’s for charity’.”

Women like Maria make up just one in ten of competitors undertaking Tough Guy. “I think Tough Guy is designed for people who just want a challenge to see how far they can physically push themselves… The women are pretty determined however, and there is definite competition!”

The Teddy Hallers have been training hard since last term in order to complete the assault-course challenge. They also did a sponsored ice bath in the College’s front quad.

Jordan said, “We have done long runs, circuit training with sand bags, tyres and jerry cans full of water, and most importantly cold water training: wading through the shallows of the punting river and swimming the width of the main river even when ice was building up at the edge!”

Higson commented, “I don’t think any of us are thinking about winning… getting to the finishing line would be a huge achievement!”

Alex Michie, a friend of the group registered his support. “I think it’s a really admirable endeavour. They are putting in considerable time and effort into training. I hope they all do well and enjoy it and raise lots of money for the RNLI, which is a very worthy cause.”

James Appleton, an ex-Cambridge student, won the title in 2009.

OUCA believe in a thing called Love

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American rock musician Courtney Love treated members of the Oxford University Conservative Association to a lively visit last Sunday.

By the end of the night the celebrity had not only joined the Association, but was also elected as the group’s first ‘Non-Executive Officer for Rock and Roll’.

Students departing from the evening’s Union debate were surprised to find Love in the Goodman Library. “I thought some people were going to faint,” said Trinity PPEist Joseph Gold-Ochsner.

The event covered many topics. During a discussion of foreign policy, Love claimed that Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez has made romantic overtures to her and offered to try and exercise leverage over his oil export policy on behalf of Britain and the US.

Love was in possession of a walking stick which she claimed to have once belonged to Sir Winston Churchill. As the event got underway Love stipulated that whoever intended to speak should be in possession of the item.

Joe Cooke, OUCA President-Elect, said that despite incessant lobbying for Love to donate the cane to the society, “she insisted that it was for P Diddy’s birthday.”

Adi Balachander, a History student at St Anne’s, sat next to Love throughout most of the night. “I found her to be a very friendly person. She was quite happy to find so many young people interested in politics,” he said.

The celebrity was said to have been interested in the “Tory culture” and the differences between American and British conservatives.

Love’s visit also attested to her career in rock and roll. As the meeting came to a close Love commended everyone in attendance to climb onto tables and sing the theme tune from ‘Dad’s Army’, also accompanying the young conservatives in their renditions of ‘Jerusalem’ and ‘God Save the Queen’. After the event Love accompanied students to the King’s Arms.

Joe Cooke does not believe any one in attendance will forget the night soon. He told Cherwell, “I was shocked to find a rock star in our midst.”

OUCA President Henry Evans was notified earlier in the day by the Union that Love wished to attend OUCA’s weekly ‘Port and Policy’ event. The celebrity was reportedly in Oxford visiting a friend, enjoying a day of pheasant shooting and looking for property in Oxfordshire.

Love spoke at the Oxford Union last year. Her talk focussed on relationships and spirituality.

Worcester chef jailed for assault

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A former chef at Worcester College was sentenced to 10 months in prison last Friday, after an ‘unprovoked attack’ on a homosexual couple.

According to evidence presented to Oxford Crown Court, Ashton Soloman-Cameron, 19, was caught on CCTV in the midst of a violent drunken outburst after mistakenly believing that businessmen Scott and Jason Davenport had racially insulted him.

In the CCTV footage shown to the Court, Soloman-Cameron punches and stamps on Scott Davenport repeatedly, causing him to suffer cuts, bruises and two chipped teeth.

Jason Davenport is undergoing physiotherapy for a fractured ankle. Witnesses reported seeing Solomon-Cameron walk away from the scene of the attack, after being called by his girlfriend.

Soloman-Cameron pleaded guilty to counts of GBH and ABH and was sentenced to 10 months in a young offender’s institution, half of which will be spent in custody.

The victims were on their way to meet a friend in Oxford in the early hours of October 10th. Rachel Drakes, lawyer for the prosecution, told the court, ‘Jason Davenport called to Scott, referring to him as ‘black man’ as he was wearing a black coat.

‘The defendant inferred it as a racial insult. Both Messrs Davenports were conciliatory and offered to shake his hand, but he punched one of them, Jason, who falls to the ground.’

The 19-year-old has previous convictions as a juvenile for battery and public order offences. He had been working as a chef at Worcester College since September, joining on a one-year contract which was extended to a permanent one.

Defending her client, Lucy Tapper remarked, ‘It’s a horrible, horrible incident and nobody would be more prepared to admit that than Soloman-Cameron, but it does come out of character.’

She added, ‘It’s surprising, perhaps, seeing that degree of unprovoked violence from somebody who doesn’t have a violent nature’, and described Soloman-Cameron as ‘quiet, polite and clearly hard-working’.

Whilst some students at Worcester were reluctant to comment on the case, the Food & Bar Rep, George Pidgeon commented, ‘I think the general consensus of the JCR committee is that although this is obviously an unfortunate incident, it is clearly a one-off, and one which we hope will not recur in the future.

‘We were not aware of previous convictions, however I personally do not feel that we really should have been.

‘The JCR does not run the recruitment process, the college does, and it is one that seems generally to work very well.’

However some Worcester students expressed their surprise that someone working for their college has been convicted for such an offence.

On sentencing Soloman-Cameron, Judge Patrick Eccles said, ‘You are bringing misery and shame upon yourself, and you have brought hardship to your family and, more importantly, the victims.

‘You have affected the future of the two victims in a serious way. It was a very nasty attack.’

Detective Constable Iain Spencer, who investigated the incident, said, ‘These two men…were attacked for no apparent reason by the offender who was highly intoxicated.

‘I hope this sentence demonstrates that drunken, loutish, behaviour will not be tolerated in the city.’

When contacted by Cherwell, Worcester’s Catering Manager, Stuart McAllister, said, ‘With reference to any staff and personnel matters we decline to comment.’

A little work never hurt Cherwell

Porters

Porters are the gatekeepers to the Oxford world; treading through their lodge is like wandering through that wardrobe into Narnia. However, I think our porters are an under-appreciated bunch. There’s a lot more to this lot than just handing you a spare key when you’ve locked yourself out your room, it’s midnight, and you’re only wearing a towel. The room where my porters sit is hallowed ground. The feet of students are not to cross its boundary, and yet here I am, standing on its threshold, foot tentatively toeing the line waiting to step across into the inner sanctum. It’s like that moment in ‘Stars in their Eyes’ when the doors open and the smoke pours out and Janet from Barnsley has been transformed (if you squint) into Madonna in her Like A Virgin heyday. Except it wasn’t quite that spectacular; it was just a tiny bit warmer than outside and tea was in abundance. I soon realised that I wasn’t about to be catching thieves breaking into the grounds or dispersing fights outside college. Rather, I had to put the mail in the correct pidges (A LOT harder than it sounds. Who knew so many people had the surname Smith?!), make sure no-one was taking coffee into the library (it turns out we get fined for that) and stamp some envelopes. To be honest, most of my time was spent looking at the CCTV cameras or dealing with some form of stationery. I got the impression that it’s a bit of a lonely job; sure, people come and talk to you, usually to ask for keys or the way to a meeting room, but most people wander through the porter’s lodge without even a glance at the friendly face just waiting to say hello. I was itching for a change of scenery when I finally got to take a wander round the quads ‘to check everything was OK’ – a trick to get me out of the plodge for a few minutes I reckon. You see, I wouldn’t say being a porter is boring, you’re always on your feet showing someone where that is, or handing out this, or sorting out something else, but I definitely don’t think it’s a job for everyone. Then again, maybe I just picked the wrong shift. Perhaps I could have been fighting crime, but knowing my luck I would be guiding a drunk student back to their room.

G&Ds

Did you know that George is a real person? I know! This was only one of the revelations I had during the short shift I spent behind the counter at G&D’s. Ben, the duty manager, started with a guided tour of their store room and bakery. Downstairs, I met Olivier, one of the bakers, whipping up the most incredible smelling batch of brownies, whilst blasting out some rousing classical music. All G&D’s baked foods are cooked in the St. Aldates’ shop and all their ice-cream is homemade in the Little Clarendon street one. Upstairs, I was set my first task, a deceptively easy sounding espresso. Ben looked scared when I told him that I was allergic to caffeine, but having reassured him I could handle coffee, I set about creating my first, and probably only, caffeinated masterpiece. Having succeeded slowly on that front, it was feeling rather pleased with my coffee making skills, that was, until a woman who wouldn’t listen to my protests that I didn’t actually work there demanded I get her a pain au chocolat and a latte. Pain au chocolat I could do, but even my now expert barista skills couldn’t compete with an espresso and a lot of warm, frothy milk. Scooping ice-cream is again a lot harder than it looks. They’ve got scales at the back for the trainee staff to measure the weight of the ice-cream so I was back and forth adding a bit at a time, trying to get the right weight. It’s a blessing I don’t actually work there; all the ice cream would be melted by the time I’d got the weight correct to a hundredth of a gram. Just towards the end of my shift, Andy, the ice-cream technician, arrived with the new ice cream and invited me over to the Little Clarendon shop to watch them make it. I was expecting something like Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory, but instead it was just a lot of freezers and cream. Apparently, G&D’s sell on average a tonne of ice cream a week and they can make almost any flavour in their ice-cream machine. Cucumber and Brie & Bacon have been the weirdest flavours Andy’s had to make; Brie & Bacon, as it turns out, ‘didn’t sell that well’. Having found out that they get a free scoop of ice-cream and a bagel every shift, I think I might have discovered the best place to work in Oxford.

Library

Libraries are the lifeblood of Oxford – we have the largest university library system in the world dontcha know? I frequently make myself a nest in my college library: I take my shoes off, shield myself with a wall of diet coke cans and settle in for the night. It gets to the point sometimes when I’m reluctant to leave. That would involve going outside where it’s Cold (with a capital C). The librarian knows me by an affectionate nickname, I feel sick at the thought of someone else in My Spot and I’ve developed hilarious slang for all library activities. I get library embarrassment; you don’t want to be seen in there for a frivolous amount of time and you definitely don’t want to be gone for lunch too long. Other people are judging you. Study is a public activity in a library, and your fellow academics are the judge and jury. Clearly I have something of an obsession, I thought I’d make the perfect librarian. In reality however, I don’t think it’s actually all that fun – and clearly my definition of ‘fun’ is broad and loose. A shift in my library involves a lot of shelving. That I can appreciate: order, a numerical system of organisation, I like the smell of books etc. etc. Unfortunately, upon investigation I discover the library does not use the Dewy decimal system. What. The. Fuck. Different sections seem to have been located wherever there is room when they are created. For example, law books marked with ‘L’ are next to engineering books marked ‘XE’. Oh the inhumanity. Working in a library, you have to be content with the company of your own thoughts. You have to value your alone time. It’s not exactly party central. Let’s face it, library time is not many people’s idea of a hip, happening evening – librarians have made a career out of other people’s misery. Not only do you have to read the dire books, you’re fined when you have them too long. The most telling aspect of the whole affair was that when I asked my fellow librarians for any witty anecdotes about their jobs, they all, independently, talked about the cat. Yes, the college cat is the most entertaining aspect of library life, after all ‘once you’ve sat down to give him a stroke, he won’t let you get away!’

The Turf

The Turf is everyone’s favourite thirteenth century ale house. Nestling behind Hertford, it’s not exactly built for the tall, but at least it has plenty of character. Luckily, once I get through the front door, my height isn’t so much of a hindrance and I can concentrate on the task at hand: serving my fellow students. Surely this is a social minefield? How do you make the transition from equal to servant without either conceding your inferiority, or retaining too much familiarity? I suppose a general attitude of deference will have to do. According to a seasoned veteran, it’s pretty easy to tell the difference between the more regular Oxford University students and the rarely sighted Brookes. Some of the former definitely live up to the stereotype: apparently no one should be behind the bar pulling pints for minimum wage when you could be living it up, getting ‘lashed’ and ‘chundering’ into your mortarboard. Unfortunately, the perks don’t seem to make this social nightmare bearable. 20% off two meals twice a month is no G&Ds.

A rehabilitation revolution

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Britain’s ability to act as an example of democracy worldwide is startling. Indeed, we even let those charged with serious crimes vote whilst waiting for their sentence. Yet the second that a sentence is passed, even if it’s a matter of weeks, all voting rights are suspended. Those who are imprisoned under any charge and for any sentence length are refused the right to take part in Britain’s democratic system. Prisoners are separated fully from society.

In 2004 the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Britain’s blanket ban on prisoners’ voting rights was illegal. Britain’s government is currently drafting legislation to allow all those serving less than a four year sentence their voting rights whilst in jail. The system will allow eligible prisoners to vote by proxy or by postal vote in their own constituencies, extending current voting rights for inmates who are on remand or not yet sentenced. The government includes proponents of the reforms, such as Ken Clarke, current Secretary of State for Justice, who will include the reforms in a range of measures referred to as the “rehabilitation revolution”.

Even for those who don’t endorse the reforms, such as David Cameron who claimed that the idea of giving prisoners voting rights made him feel “physically ill”, the Court ruling means that there is a legal obligation to reform the system. If the government fails to reach the deadline for such reforms to be passed it in 2011 could incur a fine of £16 million.

However, former Home Secretary Jack Straw and former shadow Home Secretary, David Davis, have launched a campaign against the bill. On Wednesday 19th January, in Prime Minister’s Questions, Jack Straw referred to the extension of suffrage as “an offense to the public” whilst David Davis considered the measures to be the “wrong” thing to do. The pair has appealed to the Commons Backbench Business Committee to schedule debate on the measures sooner rather than later, hoping to enable a full debate before the legal obligation of the European Court’s decision forces through proposals.

In Britain the use of short sentences for less serious crimes shows a philosophy of retribution and deterrence, but most importantly reform. By taking away the freedoms of a prisoner, the justice system forces criminals to give back what they owe to society and attempts to warn potential criminals off committing crimes. However, it is only by education and the changing of attitudes that the prison system is able to reform criminals, whether they have short or long sentences, to become functioning members of society once released.

Voting rights for prisoners in their proposed form will give the vote to 28,000 prisoners, 6,000 of whom have been imprisoned for violent crime and around 1,700 of whom have committed sex offences. These figures have caused outcry against the measures. The internet is littered with comment screaming against the injustice of criminal suffrage; but the cost of crimes which bear sentences of four years or less is not intended to be permanent or complete removal from society, the likes of which has been the advice of arguments against the measures.

Even more intelligible opponents, who worry about the offense caused to the victims of crime, the full and fair the removal of rights through imprisonment and the importance of retribution, seem to scan over one important detail of short terms. In less than four years this person will be released into society and, although their employment possibilities and other ratings will be harmed, they will be a fully functioning member of the community. They will be able to enrol in colleges, forced to pay taxes and able to enjoy the freedoms that benefit all members of society. To reject criminals from political discussions is to reject them from the world which they are expected to join.

Granting prisoners voting rights would allow for them to become engaged in discussions about the state and citizenship. The ability for prisoners to then be able to cast their vote, and have their say in the government, will give them a stake in society once released. It’s fair to assume that if an individual had education in citizenship and the ability to vote for their government, alongside an education about the issues at stake, they would feel a greater sense of responsibility in abiding by their government’s rules rather than reoffending.

Prisoners ought to be granted suffrage. Not only is there a legal obligation to ensure that the measures are passed this year, but reform could improve society. The current system, whereby prisoners’ rights to citizenship are removed alongside their freedom on incarceration only works to marginalise prisoners once released. The view that prisoners create a subclass of people, not rational or privileged enough to have the vote only works to increase reoffending rates. By granting prisoners the vote, Britain will send out a clear message, that once a crime has been committed the perpetrator will be punished but will remain a member of the community, with a right to influence society through the practise of democracy. Suffrage for prisoners is, therefore, a route to a fairer, more democratic and more inclusive society.

Spinal Tap Revisited

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This is Spinal Tap has been credited with significant cult status: it is 48th in Empire’s 500 films of all time and got 96% from Rotten Tomatoes, a worthy feat by any means. Despite this, This is Spinal Tap elicited mixed emotions from me.

This is Spinal Tap is a ‘mockumentary’ where advert director Marty DiBergi (real director Rob Reiner) follows fictional British rock band Spinal Tap as they tour the United States in order to promote their new album ‘Smell the Glove’. The group was originally started by childhood friends David St Hubbins (Michael Mikean) and Nigel Tufuel (Christopher Guest). They were later joined by bassist Derek Smalls (Harry Shearer), keyboard player Viv Savage (David Ruff) and an unprecedented number of drummers who all seem to die between tours. The entire band are, of course, actually actors who put on English accents and ad-lib for most of the script.

The film gives a mocking insight into the world of failing stardom, which certainly speaks to our generation if magazines such as Heat or OK! are anything to go by. It also imitates the style of fly on the wall documentaries, which again we are now more than familiar with. It is sad witnessing the gradual decline of this band’s reputation and with it their confidence in themselves; this is made even more obvious when compared with spliced in ‘archive’ footage of their best bits. This footage shows how the band once had all they wanted but have since become irrelevant, a fact they fail to realise. The movie excels at showing the band’s world and their subtle dynamics; we see how they argue and reconcile only to argue again. Orbiting the drama are other caricatures of the celebrity world, from the bumbling manager trying to keep it all together, to the interfering girlfriend that believes she should take control of everything. The band themselves also mock celebrity culture with their public strops, inane backstage requests and inflated egos: celebrities clearly haven’t changed much in the past 16 years.

All of the characters are larger than life for the sake of satire but it is here that the film’s comedy begins to fall down for me. The gags very much had the feel of other films such as Wayne’s World and Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure where everything that is said and done comes from left field. Maybe I am just not the target audience so I missed a lot of the genius behind it, but the jokes only made me chuckle a few times and for ‘the funniest film ever’ that is not a great score. This is disappointing as the film has a lot going for it but by the end I found I was just waiting for the final number and it all to be over.