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Interview: Barry Chuckle

Ch-ch-chucklevision, Ch-ch-chucklevision, Ch-ch-chucklevision ….” Just hearing the theme tune brings back the memories. For anyone growing up in the nineties, Chucklevision was an essential part of their childhood viewing, and, let’s face

it, I’d bet that a good few of us wouldn’t mind watching an episode today.

The stars of the show are Paul and Barry Chuckle. One is tall, the other small – both equally accident prone. Who doesn’t remember with fondness the moustachioed pair, bumbling their way through a succession of jobs and catastrophes with bucketfuls of slapstick (and cold water) and pratfalls aplenty? I had the chance to chat to one half of the act, the optimistically daft but loveable Barry, in reality the man behind the character, Barry Elliot, during the rehearsals for their latest stage show, ‘An Audience with The Chuckle Brothers’, which came to the New Theatre on the 28th February.

Hearing his voice over the phone, softly spoken and rather quiet, I must confess that I was slightly surprised not to hear the chirpy tones of the character Barry Chuckle. I am by no means implying that Barry was not a perfectly friendly interviewee, far from it, it was just a bit surreal to hear the voice that speaks ‘To me, to you’ on the other end of the line, a voice that I’d been listening to and laughing at from the age of five. I was half-expecting his on-screen persona, not the man himself on the other end of the line.

But just who are the men behind the mishaps? First things first, contrary to the widely-held misconception the two actually are brothers. Real names Paul and Barry Elliot, at 65 Barry is the elder of the two by 3 years. Born in Rotherham, the Elliots were a showbiz family, their father a comedian and their mother a professional dancer.

The brothers followed in the family line. In 1967 the pair won talent contest Opportunity Knocks and in 1974 triumphed on New Faces. Barry fondly recalls the latter, “It was the X-Factor of its day. There were two rounds, the judges and the public vote. We were one of the only acts to ever win both.” The show launched the careers of stars such as Lenny Henry but failed to kick-start the Elliot’s television success and they continued to hone their skills as variety performers, originally known as The Harman Brothers.

Given that no one would ever be likely to trust The Chuckle Brothers with a pile of crockery it is all the more surprising to learn of their real-life circus skills and plate-spinning act.”We were in a circus with Charlie Cairoli [known as the King of the Clowns]. You pick up little bits from the people you work with. It was a sort of an apprenticeship for us.” After several successful years in variety and pantomime their big television break finally came in 1984. “We were doing a show in Ashton-under-Lyme and we didn’t know that some BBC producers were in the audience. They asked us if we’d like to be in a TV series called Roger the Dog. We’ve got these dogs they told us…It was for 7 weeks and we’d never done kids’ stuff before.” He laughs, “It was like Laurel and Hardy – but we were dressed as dogs!”

The producers were pleased with the results and offered the brothers their own show as The Chucklehounds. This was to finally become Chucklevision two years later, when the dog costumes were at last cast aside and Paul and Barry’s faces seen by their young viewers for the first time. The very first episode was shown on 26 September 1987 and after 22 series is still going strong today, with no signs of finishing. Having been a regular feature of the BBC’s children’s television schedule for 23 consecutive years, what does Barry think is the secret to their longevity and enduring popularity? “It’s ageless, non-offensive entertainment,” he says simply, “It’s a friendly sort of humour.” Added to the charmingly blundering appeal of the brothers themselves, the programme’s low budget has also proved popular with BBC producers.

It is the show’s catch phrases that immediately spring to mind: “To me, to you”, “Oh dear, oh dear” and “Silly me, silly you”. Quote one of those lines to pretty much anyone and they will recognise it straightaway. But just how were such memorable, simple lines originally written? “You can try and think of a catchphrase but it has to come about naturally. ‘To me to you’ was always a family thing, we used to say it all the time at home, when we were moving furniture for example.”

With their relationship being so essential to the appeal of the show, bossy Paul and well-meaning Barry, the two obviously have an extremely strong bond. “I have a great relationship with Paul. We always got on well as kids apart from the usual squabbles. It was the same with Brian and Jimmy too.” But who, you may well ask, are they? Well, this might come as a shock but The Chuckle Brothers’ elder brothers are also in Chucklevision! Brian and Jimmy, professionally known as The Patton Brothers, appear regularly in the show. Remember Mr No-Slacking and Mr Get-out-of- it? Well that’s them.

There have been well over three hundred, but what is Barry’s favourite episode? “Series four when we went to Scarborough to film in a hot-air balloon. But there was also the one we filmed at Rotherham United’s ground.” This episode was ‘Football Heroes’ in which the brothers play for their beloved home team and, typically, score an own-goal. They have since been made Honorary Lifetime Presidents of the club and Barry admits he loves including references to his home town in the show whenever possible. And what would he call the best memory of his career? “When we won the Special Children’s BAFTA Award in 2008.” The award, in recognition of an outstanding creative contribution, was presented by Dr Who writer Russell T. Davies, who himself wrote three episodes in the early nineties. Another highlight was the Children’s Royal Variety Performance and meeting Princess Margaret. Aside from the show itself, the brothers’ theatre career is astoundingly prolific. In 2006 they celebrated their 40th consecutive year in pantomime and tour nationally with their own shows. Recent years have featured ‘Barry Potty and his Smarter Brother Paul in The Chamber of Horrors’ and ‘Doctor What and The Return of the Garlics’.

Chucklevision has without a doubt entered into the national consciousness and become a part of everyday speech. Equally, it has entered into journalistic and even political circles. Search it in Google News and I absolutely guarantee that you will find a report that uses the term. Countless articles refer to “The Chuckle Brothers” of Number 10, Brown and Darling. Other famous examples include Northern Ireland’s Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley. Barry himself chuckles (forgive the pun) at the idea, “I feel very proud. There are thousands of references to us on the internet.”

The Chuckle Brothers are a national institution. In much the same way as Blue Peter, but without the turnover in stars, they have made children giggle for decades with harmless, plain silly humour. To dismiss them as old-fashioned or to sneer at the lack of sophistication as a pie splats yet another irate boss in the face is to completely miss the point. Who needs sophistication and irony aged eight? They are a breath of fresh air and a much-needed dose of fun. Paul and Barry are simply great entertainers and I for one will always be tempted to have a look at their latest disastrous career move – no matter how old I am.

 

Roberts resigns again

Nathan Roberts has resigned again as JCR President of Queen’s College.

He announced his decision in a letter to the JCR which was sent on Monday night.
In the letter he stated that he was leaving the role because, “I don’t want to be JCR President in the current circumstances. ” Roberts’ decision was influenced by an email sent by the Dean to Queen’s undergraduate body last week, which adocated Roberts’ resignation.

In a statement to Cherwell, Roberts said, “I will definitely be challenging both the decisions made and the way they’ve been made. I’m currently in discussions with OUSU about the best way forward, but any challenges I make will not be in my role as JCR President.”

There has been a lot of support in Queen’s for Roberts, who has now effectively been elected three times.

However, a petition was brought to the JCR meeting on Sunday night calling for Roberts to resign. The student who started the petition claimed that it had sixty signatures, including some from people on the JCR Committee.

One student from Queen’s said that there were vocal supporters on both sides.

They commented, “There was a heated discussion. Some people just want a JCR President who can function and to sort out the issues that surround Nathan separately. There are those who feel that his resignation means the fight is lost, and that the real issue is JCR independence.”

Politics tutor in Brown row

Oxford tutor Dr Stewart Wood has this week joined the group of politicians and advisors involved in the Gordon Brown bullying allegations.

Wood, who works as Brown’s chief foreign policy advisor, explained an altercation with Gordon Brown to journalist Suzie Mackenzie. “[Brown] was in a really bad mood,” he said. “He walked up the stairs. And I leant forward and he went, “Outta my way!” And did that [Dr Wood makes a sweeping gesture with his arm] “Get outta my way!” Then he walked off…He

‘s never punched me. He did push me aside.”

Suzie Mackenzie, a journalist in regular correspondence with Wood, released details of a recorded conversation the two had concerning the Prime Minister. This was despite having an understanding with Wood that he would be made aware of what information she was releasing.

Wood, also a Politics tutor at Magdalen College, had been working closely with Mackenzie over the past few years as she conducted extensive research for her character study on Gordon Brown.

Describing their interviews, the journalist said, “We meet regularly, always with a tape on, and I should say here that our understanding has always been that I would not reveal what he has said without discussing things with him first.”

Mackenzie disclosed the discussion of Gordon Brown’s outbursts to The Mail on Sunday, which published an article detailing the conversation last weekend.

The allegations against the Prime Minister of abusive behaviour towards his staff first emerged in political journalist Andrew Rawnsley’s book The End of the Party. Published on the 1st of March, it charts the decline of New Labour and the relationships between the key party figures.

Mackenzie raised the subject of Brown’s allegedly abusive behaviour with Wood over a lunch-time interview at popular Westminster restaurant The Cinnamon Club on 14th January.

The journalist felt driven to publish this information after hearing Brown categorically state that he had “never, never hit anybody” or shoved them, during an interview on 28th February on Channel 4 News.

She was so incensed by his denial that she published Wood’s statements to contradict what she felt was a falsehood from the Prime Minister.

Mackenzie said, “I believe that what is being revealed here is a matter of public interest, that the time has come for transparency and honesty – most particularly in the run-up to an election.”

The journalist acknowledged the moral ambiguity of releasing details of a conversation which was agreed as off the record. “Some people will find what I have done unconscionable. I accept this,” she said.

Dr Wood responded to the media frenzy with the following statement, “Allegations that Gordon struck or punched me are totally wrong. As I recall, he was in a hurry that day, and barged past me . . . but he didn’t shove me. It did annoy me at the time, but it was an isolated incident”.

The Mail on Sunday, which published Wood’s comments, has not responded to requests for a statement.

Heart surgery suspended at JR

John Radcliffe Hospital has suspended paediatric cardiac surgery while it investigates the deaths of four children who underwent heart operations there in recent months.

The deaths have all occurred in the past four months.

In a statement, the hospital said, “The families of children awaiting cardiac surgery are being contacted and we will be placing those patients who need to be seen urgently with other hospitals. We are reviewing each of these patients to ensure that they are not put at risk by any delay in their treatment.”

They further stated that the children had been “very sick”.
An external review will be carried out to see if there are any common factors linking the deaths.

Those requiring urgent treatment have been transferred to other hospitals.
The John Radcliffe Hospital carries out about 100 heart operations on children every year.

Blind Date: Week 8

Blind Date is kindly sponsored by the Oxford Retreat, open for lunch, supper and drinks at 1 Hythe Bridge Street.

John Harwell,
Maths, Jesus

Fresh-faced fresher and gold-star gay, badly masquerading as a mathmo, coerced into this sordid state of affairs…

Armed with an amalgamation of skepticism and apprehension that manifested itself as tardiness, I arrived in a f

luster, to be met by a face I recognised from a queer discussion circle I had attended a few nights before. Conversing with someone you know to be vastly more informed and articulate than yourself is no easy task, but I managed to stand my ground as the conversation flowed from awkward “I know you, but not really” introductions to experiences resulting from our (now discarded) Catholic upbringings; from American congress and voting behaviour to the political implications of economic growth. Dining with Joe was incredibly enjoyable; I invited him to drinks afterwards, my skepticism having all but vanished.

Chat: Engaging
Looks: Charming, but lacks ‘grr’
Personality: Rigorous
2nd date?
Likely

Joe Renzullo,
PPE, St. John’s

Quirky 2nd year seeks someone with whom to share the joys of crap
television and the absurdity of the universe – perhaps the odd bit of
home-made brioche, as well.

After quite nearly making an ass of myself by being late – turned out we both were – we sat down to a meal at the Opium Den on George St. The dinner conversation was lovely and I decided to go with him to LGBTsoc drinks afterward (the essay could wait…) Time flew by, and we exchanged numbers at the end of the night. Definitely turned out better than I’d feared – particularly with respect to the absence of a prying journalist at the table!

Banter: Wide-ranging
Looks: Attractive
Personality: Modest
2nd date?
Yes

 

24% vote to RON in OUSU by-election

Beth Evans, OUSU VP-Elect for Graduates, received 24% RON (Re-Open Nominations) votes in Thursday’s by-election.

This is the largest percentage of RON votes of any OUSU candidate in the past three years.

Forty people voted RON, while 129 voted for Beth Evans, who ran unopposed.
The online by-election was held because nobody came forward to run for the position last term.

The turnout of 160 from a potential electorate of 8,101 graduates was higher than usual in an OUSU by-election.

New College cat comes home

New College’s pet kitten Otis has been returned home after being discovered in Cowley on Tuesday night.

The cat, whose disappearance was reported two weeks ago in Cherwell, is said to have been “unscathed but confused” when found by RSPCA workers.

Zoe Norridge, Fellow in African and Comparative Literature, who oversees the welfare of the College pet, has thanked everyone who helped in the search for Otis.

“Thank you for all the messages, help with putting up posters, late night walks around the University Club pitches calling out his name and so on.”

Otis, who had disappeared on Monday 8th February, is now said to be “purring and curled up on the sofa” . Norridge said, “We’ll keep Otis in for a week or so but look out for him around college towards the end of term!”

‘Sheriff of Magdalen’ appointed

Magdalen students suffering at the hands of an anonymous prankster have appointed a member of the JCR to protect them.

Matthew Shribman, a third-year Chemist, has been appointed as the college Sheriff, in order to catch the person behind the mystery persona of ‘John the Porter’.

The JCR motion granting him this position passed unanimously last Sunday.
The JCR was also mandated to provide the Sheriff with a badge, and to ask Dr Ralph Walker, Vice-President of the college, to present it to him.

The motion notes, “Someone in the college has created the fictional character of ‘John the Porter’ and has pulled stunts such as: (a) Calling numerous room phones, and telling undergraduates that they have to urgently report to the Porters Lodge to see John the Porter. The undergraduates in question arrived to find that John the Porter does not exist. (b) Turning furniture upside down in undergraduate rooms and leaving ominous notes such as ‘John the Porter is watching you’.”

Speaking to Cherwell, Shribman outlined the situation. “John the Porter is prolific. People have been affected in Magdalen, New College and Christ Church; he is growing ever more existentially portly and, though I’m doing my best, I cannot keep up.”
He further noted, “I am an experienced solver of idealistic college-based mysteries and a prolific vigilante.”

The motion noted that Shribman “would make an excellent Sheriff in solving this mystery.”

Shribman said, “The JCR voted unanimously in my favour, throwing all of their weight behind my bid to become Sheriff. This is undoubtedly a step in the right direction. I believe that the title of Sheriff will help me to speed up my investigations, especially at the more administrative end of things.

“Everybody takes Sheriffs seriously. There’s no namby-pamby with the Sheriff,” he said.

Confusion reigns over the identity of John the Porter. A number of members of college apparently believe that Shribman himself is the mysterious joker. However, the sheriff insists that those who know the culprit’s true identity are working to keep it under wraps.

“Not everyone is happy about my new appointment,” he said. “On Tuesday, just before noon, Hattie Huston, Lincoln College, attempted to crush me between the moving stacks in the Magdalen College library, stalling my investigation… of the stacks.”
Harry Maltby, a second year PPEist at Magdalen, confirmed that there was real fear surrounding this episode. “This John the Porter is no myth. Every time the phone rings I am terrified that it might be him. I am glad that college is talking the threat seriously in the appointment of the Sheriff. We students can now rest assured that something is being done.”

One Magdalen student however, who asked to be described as “a friend of John the Porter” said that Shribman would be ineffective, claiming that “John don’t fear no Sheriff.”

Tom Meakin, JCR President, was happy to see the motion pass, commenting, “I think it’s great that every once and a while colleges can take a step back and not take themselves too seriously. I wish Matthew every luck in his quest to pin down this elusive villain.”

Shribman declared that he “will retain the title of Sheriff until The Land Before Time is brought out on DVD.”

Going Up Going Down

Going Up:

All things Alice

With Tim Burton’s latest 3D offering and London’s Selfridges featuring Alice-inspired Stella McCartney pieces it seems as if everyone’s favourite shrunken heroine is everywhere at the moment.

WhatKatieWore.com

Just been chosen as one of the top 10 fashion blogs by The Observer. The task is simple: Joe writes the blog. Katie, his partner, wears the clothes. The challenge is to wear a different outfit every day for a year.

Beer

The hoppy beverage may be good for your bones, according to research from the University of California. Apparently it is a significant source of dietary silicon, a key ingredient for bone health.

Barefoot running

This year’s ‘let’s go back to nature’ fad is barefoot running. Fewer injuries, less strain on your feet and oh, that child-like feeling of running on the grass. Off to University Parks we go!

Going Down:

Lifts

The illusionist Mel Harvy’s attempt at breaking the record for the highest ever performed magic trick at the top of the Burj Tower in Dubai were vanquished due to a broken lift. He must hate heights.

Police

Gordon Brown has told police forces to keep a closer eye on their officers in an attempt to increase public confidence in the police. Less kissing and more patrolling in order then…

Ashley Cole

The latest Chelsea footballer whose private life has taken national attention. Cheating on the pitch is one thing but cheating on Cheryl Cole is just bizarre! ‘We’ve got to fight, fight, fight, then divorce…’ just doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

 

Nowt so queer as Brasenose

Brasenose is to change its lesbian and gay JCR representation in the week following accusations of ripping down posters advertising queer issues around college.

The JCR  voted to make the position of LGBT rep an official subset of Welfare on Sunday, but decided that the role will still remain a non-Committee position.

The representative will be a part of the welfare team but not eligible to attend Committee meetings.

This has triggered a wider debate as to the level of LGBT provisions in different colleges and suspected homophobia in Oxford.

The motion was passed at a General Meeting last Sunday, but with several amendments to the original proposal.

In the run up to the Brasenose JCR meeting, posters put up by Fflorens Gamberton, Brasenose’s current LGBT rep, appeared to have been torn down.
But Pip Reeve, one of the college’s Welfare reps, said that she did not think the poster-tampering was indicative of homophobia.

“I do not believe that there was any discrimination against LGBT members prior to the motion in Brasenose,” she said. “For this reason I do not believe that the poster tampering was in anyway deliberate.”

The new LGBT rep will be selected by the Welfare reps and current LGBT reps in Michaelmas Term when other JCR positions are decided.

But the role will still not be a committee position, and the rep will not have access to the JCR mailing list.

Fflorens Gamberton, the current LGBT rep, proposed the motion and noted her gratitude for the JCR passing the motion.

But she also said, “It is one small step for Brasenose, not a giant leap for general Oxonian LGBT Representation.

“In a perfect world, there would be no minority representation of any kind, because the institutionalized inequality which exists throughout our society would no longer affect the lives of students here.”

She added, “I personally know people at three or four different colleges who have spent their entire undergraduate time in the closet because of the perceived backlash they would face if they came out.”

Gamberton pointed to the “‘laddish’ sports culture” where homophobia can erupt.

Grace Weaver, LGBT rep at Corpus Christi agreed with this. “The most pressing of these [unresolved issues] is the homophobic “banter” that occurs frequently, especially in sports clubs”.

LGBT representation varies from college to college, but most JCRs have a non-Exec LGBT representative.

Jesus and Somerville are among a small number of colleges who instead have a JCR Diversities Rep to represent a range of minority students in the JCR, including LGBT, international students and disabled students.

But Weaver argued the case for a single LGBT rep. “You know that an LGBT rep is going to have had some experience dealing with specifically LGBT issues,” she said. “It is much easier for a person to be helpful in this area if they have gone through similar experiences themselves.”

Ahnaf Abdul, the Equal Opportunities and LGBT Rep at Merton disagreed, and said that one general Equalities rep could work, as long as there is “at least one openly LGBT peer supporter in each college.”

Abdul added, “I feel Oxford is fairly tolerant, though not necessarily friendly to or educated about queer issues.”